Friday, July 19, 2019

Important Card Focus: 1910 D380 Clement Bros. Ty Cobb

Here is a card that you should be familiar with if collecting prewar baseball cards.

This is a 1910 D380 Clement Bros. Bread Ty Cobb card.  It is considered one of Cobb's rarest cards out there.  I'm not sure of this, but I would think there are even more T206 Cobb with Cobb back examples than there are of this card. 

This set was issued only in Rochester, NY which explains some of the rarity.  There was a set issued in 1909 that only has eight Rochester players in the checklist.  Their portraits are inside an oval on the front of the card.  (One of these cards is on my Jersey City wantlist due to the player being pictured in his Jersey City uniform on the card). 

In 1910, Clement Bros. Bread issued another small set of cards that include twenty-four checklisted players with a mix of Rochester players and major leaguers.  There are five Hall of Famers in the set, Cobb being the key card.  The other HOFers are Chief Bender, Eddie Collins, Addie Joss and Joe Tinker.

One interesting feature of this card is the pose used is the same as the batting pose used for Cobb in the E90-1 American Caramel set.  Obviously, this one being in black and white however. 

Ty Cobb's name, position and team are identified at the bottom of the card.

The back of the card has an ad for Clement Bros. Bread, Clement's pies (22 kinds) and mentions that the Rochester team is included in the series of cards.

There has been a couple additions to the checklist since I last posted about this card in 2012. 

So if you're a prewar baseball card collector, then you should definitely know about this card.  It's an important card in this hobby.

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a great one.

Thursday, July 18, 2019

Washington Post and the Misadventures of the Hobby


Well this whole scandal that is unfolding in our beloved hobby has hit a new level.

The Washington Post has run an article detailing the scandal for those who haven't heard about it yet.  Here is a link to the article written by Jacob Bogage.

I think it's a well written story naming the folks involved and not pushing an agenda.  Jacob didn't shy away from posting names like PSA, PWCC and Gary Moser.  He included links to both Brent Huigen's (PWCC's CEO) post about the scandal on Net54 and Steve Sloan's (PSA's President) statement on the company's blog. 

Gary Moser of course denies altering any cards and claims he just buys what he thinks are under graded and cracks them out to resubmit for a better grade. 

Anyway, I just wanted to get it out there that this article was written and share it with you.

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a great one...still

Sunday, July 7, 2019

New Pick Ups

There was talk on Net54 recently about relic cards and whether prewar collectors also collect relic cards of prewar/vintage players.

There was some debate about the idea of cutting up a truly rare jersey to include in these cards and some felt it was ok while others didn't.  I'm not sure how I feel about the cutting up of Babe Ruth jerseys or Ty Cobb bats.  But what I do know is that I'm totally ok with the cutting up of modern player jerseys and bats. 

So I recently picked up a few game used cards for my collection and I'll share them here.

I've liked Mark Teixeira since early in his career with Texas and have a few of his relic cards.  So when I'm looking for new jersey cards or bat cards, I often search for his cards.  Well, I picked up these two recently and I like them both quite a bit.  Neither broke the bank either.

 
 
I'm also a SF Giants fan and like to pick up Giants cards from time to time, so I picked up this Evan Longoria Jersey/Bat card too.  I used to live in the Bay area and really fell in love with the team during that time.
 
 
Then my favorite of the recent pick ups is this sweet 2004 Timeless Treasures Cal Ripken Jr. home and away jersey card.  I really like the design of this set and when Timeless Treasures were new I was drawn to a lot of the designs.  Not all of them, but this one I really like.
 
 
And you can't go wrong with a Cal Ripken Jr. card to be honest.  I think I got it for a great price too which made me even more excited. 
 
So there are my newest pick ups.  I know, they aren't prewar or even vintage, but I like them all the same and sometimes I do talk about modern parts of the hobby. 
 
Enjoy the hobby all...it's a great one.
 

 

Sunday, June 2, 2019

Major Scandal Involving PWCC and TPG and Altered Cards

There has been a heck of a scandal with lots of breaking news happening the last month or so.

If you're not on either Net54 vintage baseball cards forum or the Blowout forums then you might not know about the scandal involving PWCC (eBay's biggest sportscard seller) and the grading companies and altered cards that are being graded and sold as non-altered cards with number grades.

I don't know how many readers I really have, but I wanted to let you all know about this in case you didn't know what was going on.  Here are some links to the message boards so you can read up on the whole thing.  There is a lot to read by the way so get ready for a long eye opening read. 

Net54 Vintage Baseball Card Forums

Blowout Forums

The link to Blowout is going to take you to the list of related threads exposing the many many different examples of cards that have been worked on. 

Basically, PWCC has been selling cards to a known card doctor who then cracks them out and "fixes" them and then consigns them back to PWCC where they are selling for sometimes huge profits to buyers that have no idea they are buying trimmed, pressed, recolored, etc. cards. 

There are a ton of examples that have been outed so far.  If you ever bought from PWCC you have a chance that you have an altered card in a PSA or BGS case.  And a lot of these trimmed cards are obviously trimmed so PSA really missed them.  Or, as some are speculating, they are in on the whole thing.  Or at least they have a grader that is in on it and they don't know it.  Again, all speculation at this point. 

It has been proven, however, that PWCC has been working with several card doctors over the years.  Make up your own mind, but read the threads and get educated.

Enjoy the hobby all...if you still can.

Sunday, May 5, 2019

T206 Walter Johnson Portrait PSA 9

The PSA 9 T206 Walter Johnson Portrait that was being auctioned off on eBay has ended without a sale.

A few posts ago I mentioned that there was a PSA 9 T206 Walter Johnson portrait being sold on eBay and that I might do a follow up on it after it ended.  Well, the auction ended and the card did not meet the reserve.

The bids were strong getting 33 bids up to $89,188.86.  That's a decent price but the seller wanted more apparently.  I know I would if it were my card. 

 
 
This card has been skyrocketing in value the last few years.  In fact, two different PSA 9 Johnson portraits sold in 2018 by Heritage Auctions and they realized $108K and $114K with buyer's premium.  So this one could've gone much higher than $89K. 

The reserve likely kept some bids away as potential bidders sometimes assume the reserve is going to be a ridiculous number and won't be reached anyway. 

Let's see if it resurfaces on eBay again with a lower reserve or no reserve and see what happens.  

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a great one.
 

Friday, May 3, 2019

Recent Pick Ups

Well, I don't usually talk about modern cards, but I am a sucker for 80's rookies.

I recently picked up three cards that I'd like to share with you.  The first one is vintage, a 1968 Atlantic Oil of Bob Gibson.  This card finished the set for me, although now I'll have to separate my set into the two different back types.  One is the rules back and the other is the play ball back.  Then I'll have to complete each separate set, again.  Good thing I like this set.

 
Next up are two great 80's rookies.  One is the 1989 Donruss the Rookies Ken Griffey Jr.  I like this one much better than his regular 1989 Donruss card.  I think the pose is better and I like the Rookies logo in the upper right corner.


And then in keeping with the 80's rookies, I picked up a 1987 Classic Travel Barry Bonds.  This is the yellow back version so not as rare as the green back, but I needed them both anyway so this one works for now.  I really like the yellow border on this one along with the yellow in Barry's Pirates uniform.


So those are my recent pick ups folks.  I hope you like them as much as I do.

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a great one.

Wednesday, May 1, 2019

Jim Thorpe Cards

I was just thinking about Jim Thorpe and the cards he has from his playing days and after and thought I would post a little about them.

There are several cards of Jim from the early years but many may not be well known.  Here are some of his more common cards.

This is Jim's 1933 Goudey Sport Kings card featuring Jim as a football player. 

On the back of this card it talks about Jim being born in Oklahoma in 1888 as part of the Sac and Fox Tribe.  He attended the Carlisle Indian School and excelled at all sports.

He was especially known for his prowess at football scoring 198 points in 1912. 

He also played baseball, basketball and track and won the decathlon and pentathlon in the Olympics. 

It's easy to see why Jim was considered a Sport King in this set. 

Another very common card for Jim is his 1955 Topps All American Football card.  This is one of my favorites of his just because of the image on the card.  It's a very powerful card.

 
This card features Jim in his Carlisle uniform suited up and ready for battle on the field.
 
There are a couple of cards of Jim during his playing days that command a decent premium these days.  One of these cards is his 1916 M101-5 Sporting News.  This is a wonderful card.
 

This card features Jim during his stint with the NY Giants in the National League.  There is another card showing Jim on the Giants that is very rarely seen.  It is the 1915 W-Unc strip card featured here.
 
 
This is one of my favorite Thorpe cards and I like the other cards from this obscure set as well. 
 
Another card that is very rare from his playing days is his Colgan's Chips Tin Tops card.  This is a very hard to find card that doesn't show up for sale very often at all.  The odd thing about this card is the fact that Jim's portrait is hand drawn instead of a photo like most of the other cards in the set. 
Are there any more cards from Jim's playing days?  Actually, yes, there is one more that depicts Jim in the Pacific Coast League after his career with the NY Giants.  Not everyone knows he played in the PCL but he did.
 
This card is Jim's 1922 Zeenut card when he was playing for Portland.
 
 
 
There are some other really cool cards of Jim out there as well.  Of course, Jim was an America Indian and he embraced his heritage.  So it isn't a surprise to see him on some cards in his Indian attire.
 
Here are three examples of some 1930's Exhibits in three different colors of Jim in his ceremonial head dress. 
 
 
While these aren't the easiest of exhibits to find, they also produced smaller strip cards of the same pose that are even harder to find. 
 
 
 
There is another variation of this strip card with the dotted lines on the bottom as well.


There is also a really cool post card that issued of Jim in the 1912 Olympics that can be found with a little searching.


And for good measure, I'll mention the card that was issued in 1959 in the Fleer Ted Williams set that pictures Jim along with Ted.


 
Then, although they aren't cards, how can you talk about Jim Thorpe cards without mentioning the stamps that were made in his honor as well.  Here are two beautiful postage stamps commemorating the greatest overall athlete.



Does that football pose look familiar?  It's the same image as on his 1955 Topps All American football card.
 
If you don't know much about Jim Thorpe, you should read a little about him.  He was an amazing athlete who was treated wrongly (in my opinion) after proving his amazing skills in the Olympics. 
 
Enjoy the hobby all...it's a great one.