Saturday, June 30, 2018

T205 Stanage Miscut

There was recently a very cool miscut T205 on eBay.


 
For several years there has been interest in T206 oddities like miscuts, scraps, double names, etc. 

The phenomenon hasn't been as big of a deal with T205s for some reason.  At least I haven't seen as many instances of oddities with the T205 set. 

But recently on eBay there was a very miscut example of a T205 Oscar Stanage.  This card was miscut top to bottom with the entire ad on the reverse cut off the bottom and printed on the top of the card.  The front, of course, was just as miscut as the back. 

This is a very cool mistake that I would love to own myself, however the ending price was a bit out of my range.  This particular card ended at $1,136.11.  Is this a strong price for this card?  I don't know as there aren't a whole lot of T205 oddities to compare it to. 

I do know that there was a miscut T206 Knight with a similar miscut that sold in a 2015 Robert Edward Auctions auction and closed for $4,500.  This is a comparable common miscut card from the T206 set, although the Knight was a little better condition.

But this goes to show that the T206 oddities command a bigger premium than the T205 oddities.  That shouldn't be much of a surprise to you though.  The T206 set is much more widely collected and popular.

You can search T206 miscuts and find several other examples as well.  There is even a nice Cy Young example out there.  That one sold for $10,400 back in 2014. 

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a cool one.

Wednesday, June 27, 2018

Recent Pick Up

My latest pick up...

Here is my latest pick up folks.  It's a pretty cool card from the M116 set.  This one fits in the "Pedigree" category.  This is my third Lionel Carter card and I really like it.  It's an M116 Sporting Life Nig Clarke card graded SGC 3 VG. 


This is my only card from this set so it's a type card for me.  I don't plan on working on the set at all either so it'll stay a type card.  Not a bad addition I would say.

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a sweet one.

Wednesday, June 20, 2018

Big Changes at SGC

Sportscard Guarantee, LLC (SGC) has announced several changes and enhancements to their services.

I know I'm not the first person to report this, but SGC has some changes coming up.  As was reported on Sportscollectorsdaily.com one of the changes is that they will abandon their 100 point scale for grading cards and begin using a 10 point scale. 

Collectors will also be able to track their submissions throughout the process and know where their cards are at all times. 

One of my favorite changes is the fact that SGC will begin scanning each card after it is slabbed and before it is shipped.  Collectors will be able to view their cards online allowing them to also verify that a card that is being sold is the same card that was in the slab when it was graded and hasn't been switched out. 

Another new option for submissions is the "Grader Notes Option" where customers can see the notes that the graders make when they are evaluating their card and get a better idea of why they received the grade they did.

Check out the article at Sportscollectorsdaily for more info.

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a grade one. 

See what I did there?  A grade one.  Like a great one.  Ha!

Sunday, June 17, 2018

T206 - The Basics


There is a lot one can learn about the great T206 White Border set, but here are some of the basics you should know.

The T206 White Border set, affectionately known as "The Monster", has been studied by many hobby scholars over the years and much has been learned about the set.  Even today new theories are being put forth regarding how the set was printed, why some cards are more difficult than others, etc.  But here we will just be taking a look at the basics of the set.  It's such a complex beast that it can be overwhelming and confusing if you just jump in and try to digest it all at once.  So let's begin...

The set was produced by The American Tobacco Company (ATC) during the period 1909 through 1911 to be inserted into various brands of tobacco products as a premium to be collected by consumers.  The cards began to be very popular with children and it was common for kids to ask smokers for their "baseball men" when they bought a pack of smokes.   

The cards were printed by The American Lithograph Company (ALC) in New York and were then sent to one of six factories to be inserted into the product for distribution.  Printed on the backs of the cards was an ad for whichever brand of tobacco the cards were packed with.  There were 15 different  brands of tobacco advertised on the backs. 

Backs examples
  
These 15 brands in alphabetical order are American Beauty, Broad Leaf, Carolina Brights, Cycle, Drum, El Principe de Gales, Hindu, Lenox, Old Mill, Piedmont, Polar Bear, Sovereign, Sweet Caporal, Tolstoi and Uzit.  A large number of collectors also consider the Ty Cobb back to be part of the T206 set as well, but these 15 brands are the unquestionable brands in the set.  The Ty Cobb "King of the Smoking Tobacco World" back is only found with the Ty Cobb red background portrait front and is extremely rare.  For this reason, I will consider it a separately issued card that is not part of the set.
 
Ty Cobb Back
 
Some collectors also entertain the idea that the Type I Coupon cards are part of the T206 set as well.  While it is true that these share a very similar ad design on the backs, I believe the Coupon sets are distinct separate sets as well.  Below is a Type I Coupon back with four T206 backs that all share the same design. 
 
Back Comparison
 
The backs all identify what factory the cards were distributed from at the bottom and, as was mentioned earlier, there are six different factories.  Some backs were distributed from several different factories and some were distributed from just a single factory.  Another designation on the backs of some of the cards is the series in which the card was issued.  For example, some backs state 150 Subjects, 350 Subjects, 350-460 Subjects or 460 Subjects.  These help identify when the cards were printed between the three years of distribution.
 
When you consider all the backs possible with different ads, different factories and different subjects you end up with 36 different backs.  This does not include the Ty Cobb back, Coupon back, blank back or brown Old Mill back.  The blank and brown Old Mill backs are considered scraps or not actually issued with the tobacco. 
 
There are 524 different fronts in the Monster set.  But when you take into account all the front/back combinations there are over 6,000 unique card possibilities. 
 
Within those 524 different fronts there are many tougher cards than others and some outright rare cards.  There are four cards you should definitely know in the set.  These are called "The Big Four" and they are Wagner (Pittsburgh), Plank, Magie (error) and Joe Doyle N.Y. Nat'l. 
 
The Big Four
 
 Then there are the next two cards that make it the big six: Demmitt (St. Louis) and O'Hara (St. Louis).  One thing you should know about these two cards is that they are only found with the Polar Bear back.  There are multiples of several players with Ty Cobb having four examples alone.
 
Ty Cobbs
 
 Hal Chase has the most unique cards with five examples.  But many players have two or three.  There are 76 Hall of Famer cards in the set as well.  And there is a subset of players from the Southern Leagues that includes 48 different cards.  These are all a little tougher to find than the other common cards in the set.  One of my favorite subsets is the horizontal subset.  There are six horizontal cards in the set and they seem to carry a slight premium as many collectors focus on them.
 
 
 There are many different ways to collect T206s; trying to get each of the 524 fronts (although many consider the set complete at 520 and do not include the rare Big Four), team collections and player collections, front/back combos, back runs of a particular front, etc.  Below is an impressive back run of a Fred Merkle front.  Click to enlarge the image.
 
Merkle Back Run
 
Another popular way to collect cards from the set are to collect what are called "Freaks".  They can be anything from a miscut card that shows part of another card, a name caption on the top as well as on the bottom, overprints, missing colors, missing names, proofs, etc.  Here are some cool examples of T206 Freaks...
 
   
 
 
There is no wrong way to collect them.  So go ahead and jump right in and start picking some up.  But be careful as you may get hooked on these cards.
 
As I said, these are just some of the basics of the set.  There is much more to learn about T206 but this should give you a good start.
 
Enjoy the hobby all...it's a Monster!

Monday, May 28, 2018

TPG Pedigree Labels

In some cases, third party graders (TPG's) put a pedigree label on a flip.

There have been many different pedigree labels placed on grading flips by the TPG's.  Some examples are the Rudy Strejc collection, the Collector's Collection, The Skydash Collection, etc.  What is a pedigree label?

A pedigree label is a label on the flip, or the grading label, that states that the card is from a specific collection.  For some collectors having a pedigree gives more value to the cards.  It can add more confidence that a card was not altered since it was part of a certain hobby pioneer's collection or because it was part of a former players collection like the Robin Roberts collection or the Harmon Killebrew collection. 

Well, I have a some pedigreed cards and I find them some of my favorites.  Mine are from hobby pioneers Lionel Carter and Frank Nagy.  And I'm psyched to own them.

My Nagy is a boxing card which is part of the E78 set.  The E78 set is supposed to be a tough set also.  So not only was I happy to get an E78, add to that the fact that it was previously owned by hobby pioneer Frank Nagy and you have a super cool card.  I don't even care that it has three punch holes in it.

 
The other two cards I have with pedigrees come from the Lionel Carter collection.  Lionel Carter was a great hobby pioneer who was friends with Jefferson Burdick, the writer of the American Card Catalog.  Lionel had a wonderful collection that was sold in 2007 by Mastro.  He lived until he was 90 years old in 2008. 


My two examples come from the two prewar sets of 1933 Tattoo Orbit and the 1910 E98 sets.  The Tattoo Orbit was given to me by a hobby friend when I told him how cool it was and explained who Carter was.  He said he thought it was better served as part of my collection since it meant more to me than it did to him.  Amazing huh?  I was floored. 

The E98 I picked up off of eBay and was stunned I got it for what I did.  I don't remember that many of Lionel's cards being of so bad condition, but this one is cool.  I love this pose of Chase so it was even cooler than just any other Carter card when I picked it up. 

So what cards do you have that were once part of someone else's pedigreed collection?  And do you even care about the pedigree?  Some collectors don't care about the pedigree, but I find it pretty cool. 

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a great one.

Thursday, May 24, 2018

Recent Pick Up

Ok, Ok, I know, it's not baseball...

...But I just picked up a sweet card that I'm pretty psyched about.  It's an E79 Scrappers boxing caramel card.  Why am I so excited to have it you may ask?  Well, this one has a very rare red back as opposed to the regular black back that the set normally has. 
 
According to Adam Warshaw's boxing cards website these red backed cards are very rarely seen.  I happened on this one on eBay recently along with two other red backed cards.  The other two subjects were Stanley Ketchell and Abe Attell.  I would've loved to have gotten the Attell but I wasn't fortunate enough to get him.  I was very happy to land this one though. 
 
The seller didn't make any mention of the backs of these three cards being the rare red back versions.  In fact the Attell was even mislabeled as an E77 instead of an E79. 
 
The seller did have several E77s also and they all went for way more than I thought they would considering their condition.  I recently picked up an E77 for a best offer of $3.50.  I know that's a steal and I was excited about that one too, but these ones that were in similar grade to the one I got all sold for over $100.  But I digress...
 
I never thought I would find a red back E79 to be honest.  I'd never seen one before a couple weeks ago.  I knew they existed, but never saw one.  I've only really been passively collecting the set for a little over a year but I did collect the horizontal cards from the set years ago.  So I've been looking at them for years now. 
 
 
I'm not too concerned about the condition being what it is either as the examples on Adam's website are in equally bad condition leading me to believe that just finding an example is tough enough let alone finding a nice condition one. 
 
This one had the best back of the three on eBay in my opinion also and since the back is the big deal I thought that was nice too. 
 
I hope you like this new pick up as much as I do.
 
Enjoy the hobby all...it's a colorful one.

Thursday, May 10, 2018

From eBay to REA

Robert Edward Auctions (REA) recently completed their Spring 2018 Auction.
 
One of the highlights for me was an extremely rare backed T206 portrait of Ty Cobb with the red background.  The back of this card has the very elusive Broad Leaf 460 back.  This is considered the fourth most difficult back to find an example of out of thirty nine possible backs.
 

Image courtesy Robert Edward Auctions
The 460 refers to the number of subjects noted on the back of the card.  Some list 150, some list 350 and some list 460 (and there is mixtures of these as well).  Broad Leaf 350 cards are also very scarce and hard to find examples of but the 460 is more difficult. 
 
To put the rarity of this Cobb in perspective, there was only one previously known example of this particular front/back combo in the hobby before this one was discovered.  The gentleman who did find this example was out on a trip looking through items being sold at the house this card was in.  He knew it was an important card as he already had a T206 Ty Cobb red background in his personal collection, but didn't know this back was so rare. 
 
He decided to sell this Cobb, keeping his other example, and listed it on eBay.  When knowledgeable collectors began asking him about the card and people started talking about it possibly not being legit, he realized there was something more to this card than just the fact that it's a Cobb.  He pulled the listing and contacted REA.

Image courtesy Robert Edward Auctions
 
After speaking with the auction house he sent this Cobb card to their offices to be examined.  REA card experts all took a look at it and determined it was legit.  It was sent to SGC to be graded and authenticated and came back with the numerical grade of 10/1 poor.  There are several condition issues with this card including the very clear horizontal crease in the middle that contribute to this grade. 
 
There are now two of these amazing cards residing in SGC holders in the hobby.  The gentleman decided to consign this Cobb and several other cards he owned in the latest REA auction.  The Cobb opened at $25,000 and garnered 19 bids ending at $60,000.  I actually thought it would go for more considering what it is: A Ty Cobb red background, one of the most popular cards from the T206 set, the most popular tobacco set in the hobby, with one of the rarest backs possible, of which only two are now known. 

The latest sale of the T206 Cobb with Ty Cobb back in the last Heritage Auction realized $408,000.00.  Now I know, that one was graded PSA 3.5 and the Ty Cobb back is ranked tougher than the Broad Leaf 460, but I'm still surprised this BL460 didn't go for more money. 

What do you guys think? 

Enjoy the hobby all...it's a broad one.